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	<title>Comments on: E36 comfort relay</title>
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		<title>By: Eengstro</title>
		<link>http://blog.eengstro.com/2005/04/20/e36-comfort-relay/comment-page-1#comment-4386</link>
		<dc:creator>Eengstro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 20:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, let me mention that I&#039;m not a mechanic nor an electrical engineer, so what I&#039;m about to say could be total baloney.

I assume you&#039;re talking about a &#039;93 sedan. Looking at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0837603269/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Service Manual&lt;/a&gt;, p. ELE-227 describes the Power Door Locks for 1993. There, you&#039;ll find the Central Locking Module (also known as ZVM). Pin 9 from the ZVM goes to Pin 9 on the Comfort Relay with a violet/yellow wire (p. ELE-233). Pin 8 on the Comfort Relay is ground, with a brown wire.

I&#039;m assuming the ZVM is some sort of computer; thus, the Service Manual doesn&#039;t list schematics or behavior of Pin 9. However, Pin 9 on the Comfort Relay (the input from the ZVM) goes to a transistor, which then controls the relay itself. Thus, I would &lt;b&gt;guess&lt;/b&gt; that Pin 9 should be high when a door is closed, and low when a door is open. Of course, Germans being Germans, who knows? ;) In any case, if the voltage on Pin 9 does &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; change when you open or close the door, then the ZVM is probably doing something funny.

&lt;b&gt;Update:&lt;/b&gt; Of course, that would be the behavior once the car has been turned off -- the windows will continue to operate until one of the doors is opened. When the car is actually turned on or running, I would expect Pin 9 to be high regardless of the doors, since the windows are supposed to operate any time the car is on/running.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, let me mention that I&#8217;m not a mechanic nor an electrical engineer, so what I&#8217;m about to say could be total baloney.</p>
<p>I assume you&#8217;re talking about a &#8216;93 sedan. Looking at the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0837603269/" rel="nofollow">Service Manual</a>, p. ELE-227 describes the Power Door Locks for 1993. There, you&#8217;ll find the Central Locking Module (also known as ZVM). Pin 9 from the ZVM goes to Pin 9 on the Comfort Relay with a violet/yellow wire (p. ELE-233). Pin 8 on the Comfort Relay is ground, with a brown wire.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m assuming the ZVM is some sort of computer; thus, the Service Manual doesn&#8217;t list schematics or behavior of Pin 9. However, Pin 9 on the Comfort Relay (the input from the ZVM) goes to a transistor, which then controls the relay itself. Thus, I would <b>guess</b> that Pin 9 should be high when a door is closed, and low when a door is open. Of course, Germans being Germans, who knows? <img src='http://blog.eengstro.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  In any case, if the voltage on Pin 9 does <i>not</i> change when you open or close the door, then the ZVM is probably doing something funny.</p>
<p><b>Update:</b> Of course, that would be the behavior once the car has been turned off &#8212; the windows will continue to operate until one of the doors is opened. When the car is actually turned on or running, I would expect Pin 9 to be high regardless of the doors, since the windows are supposed to operate any time the car is on/running.</p>
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		<title>By: fahe</title>
		<link>http://blog.eengstro.com/2005/04/20/e36-comfort-relay/comment-page-1#comment-4385</link>
		<dc:creator>fahe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 19:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>which is the voltage among the points 8 and 9 of the relay comfort, when the door this open one and when the door this closed?</description>
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		<title>By: Bruce MacMillan</title>
		<link>http://blog.eengstro.com/2005/04/20/e36-comfort-relay/comment-page-1#comment-4365</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce MacMillan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I can say is &quot; thankyou thankyou thankyou thankyou .....thankyou &quot; a  million times.  I had a temp in who was looking for work and gave them my BMW to clean and polish, and the rest is obvious in hindsight. I &#039;d checked all the fuses, relays, started stripping down the wiring. Again.. 
Thankyou
Bruce 
Southern part of Darkest Africa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I can say is &#8221; thankyou thankyou thankyou thankyou &#8230;..thankyou &#8221; a  million times.  I had a temp in who was looking for work and gave them my BMW to clean and polish, and the rest is obvious in hindsight. I &#8216;d checked all the fuses, relays, started stripping down the wiring. Again..<br />
Thankyou<br />
Bruce<br />
Southern part of Darkest Africa</p>
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		<title>By: Eengstro</title>
		<link>http://blog.eengstro.com/2005/04/20/e36-comfort-relay/comment-page-1#comment-4359</link>
		<dc:creator>Eengstro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems to be my most popular post (such as it is), so I&#039;ve enabled comments in case anyone out there wants to get a useful discussion going.</description>
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